tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post3535655184050441420..comments2024-03-27T21:12:28.287-05:00Comments on Collected Editions: Review: Robin War hardcover/paperback (DC Comics)collectededitionshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-39356581098751711062017-03-13T23:20:51.885-05:002017-03-13T23:20:51.885-05:00To be reviewed sooner than later.To be reviewed sooner than later.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-47535916460045353782017-03-10T15:20:21.627-06:002017-03-10T15:20:21.627-06:00I wasn't a big fan of the Night of the Monster...I wasn't a big fan of the Night of the Monster Men crossover, some of the dialogue was a bit strange and the only issue that stood out as being better was the first of the 2 Detective Comics issue.<br /><br />(It's hard discussing it without giving away spoilers, so I'll leave it at that.)PeterBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-73966235971871098732017-03-10T11:51:50.454-06:002017-03-10T11:51:50.454-06:00I think it was decent. If it hadn't interrupt...I think it was decent. If it hadn't interrupted the aftermath of stories I was more interested in (the aftermath of the Gotham and Team Batman first arcs, mostly) that already had a lot of action elements, I might have viewed NotMM a bit differently. The Bat-universe is incredibly cohesive right now, though, and I love thatBob Schoonoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15371205595372517089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-18031892368873675712017-03-09T23:47:04.688-06:002017-03-09T23:47:04.688-06:00@Bob Schoonover
I don't think Night of the Mon...@Bob Schoonover<br />I don't think Night of the Monster Men was great, but I do agree that for a crossover, it's well-executed. If you weren't reading in floppies, you could easily mistake it for just a six-issue mini-series. I remember Orlando saying that he wrote all the scripts, and that the other writers just consulted on the plot details. It was very even and consistent in tone and voice.HelloTherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05602812462354227620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-45121052475572919512017-03-09T22:04:04.234-06:002017-03-09T22:04:04.234-06:00I'm eager to see about that very thing in Nigh...I'm eager to see about that very thing in Night of the Monster Men, though your favorable review might have predisposed me. As crossovers go, I thought Robin War was pretty tight in terms of voice and tone -- certainly spinning far less out of control than some of the behemoth crossovers of the New 52, including Superman: Doomed, Forever Evil: Blight, and Green Lantern: Godhead. collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-74907765973554412392017-03-09T18:56:09.410-06:002017-03-09T18:56:09.410-06:00I think the way Night of the Monster Men was execu...I think the way Night of the Monster Men was executed (Steve Orlando co-wrote every issue - I'm guessing he did the heavy lifting on the x-over parts and the normal writers kept their plots going) will be a crowd pleaser to the CE crowd. It was just well-executed (whether one likes it is something else). I hope this method was well received internally and will be used for other crossover events.Bob Schoonoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15371205595372517089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-36679552222770879042017-03-09T01:33:02.926-06:002017-03-09T01:33:02.926-06:00I thought this crossover was decent, but suffered ...I thought this crossover was decent, but suffered from having too many plot points going on, and not enough space to cover everything. What happened to the corrupt Councilwoman? What about the Robin laws? Did the We Are Robins really get out with no casualties? I think it would have benefitted if the tie-ins were incorporated more heavily into the plot, maybe given to King to write.HelloTherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05602812462354227620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-26002787790026653662017-03-07T12:44:29.622-06:002017-03-07T12:44:29.622-06:00It only partially collects Action Comics #30 and S...It only partially collects Action Comics #30 and Superman/Wonder Woman #7. When you open the book these are collected in the Prelude Part 1 chapter. But even in the front of the book it doesn't say partially collected like it sometimes does by saying: "and pages of...".PeterBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-88894782075373096522017-03-07T11:34:28.762-06:002017-03-07T11:34:28.762-06:00Not sure I follow. The Superman: Doomed collection...Not sure I follow. The Superman: Doomed collection doesn't chop up any issues, does it? Granted some issues, like Superman: Doomed #1 and #2 themselves, are only available in the crossover trade, but to your point of them possibly only "partially print[ing]" issues in Robin War (whereas they went ahead and printed them in full), they didn't do that for Superman: Doomed either, right?collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-73777520822638788782017-03-07T10:35:07.840-06:002017-03-07T10:35:07.840-06:00I also prefer the complete collecting of issues, b...I also prefer the complete collecting of issues, but I never assume they did anymore since they did it as recent as Superman: Doomed and online (for example Amazon) it doesn't mention it's partially printed.<br /><br />It's one of the reasons why I stopped collecting the separate crossover TPB unless they contained issues not printed anywhere else.PeterBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-16724053608277979562017-03-06T20:06:53.510-06:002017-03-06T20:06:53.510-06:00We might call just printing the relevant parts of ...We might call just printing the relevant parts of tie-in issues the (original) "Batman: Murderer/Fugitive" model, where they did cut and paste issues together to leave out the irrelevant stuff. I thought that was pretty cool at the time, making the book kind of like a graphic novel, but in re-reads it comes off choppy; a scene seems to break, but then you're back at the very same scene on the next page. I like collecting the full issue better; I can understand how that might be annoying if you're really, really only interested in the crossover, but again, as someone caught up on all of those series, it was fine for me.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-16920214156314764002017-03-06T14:58:47.535-06:002017-03-06T14:58:47.535-06:00You really should read the rest of Grayson, I can&...You really should read the rest of Grayson, I can't wait to discuss things with you.<br /><br />I read this in single issues at a friends and just planned on collecting the regular books of the series later. I still don't have all of them and it's been a while since I read it, so my memory isn't perfect. With this being one of the last crossovers before rebirth, I'm really glad they got rid of the double printing of issues after this.<br /><br />When I started reading the crossover I didn't think the book would have been so Grayson oriented. And I thought they would have only partially printed the Red Hood/Arsenal story since that doesn't reflect on the Robin War itself, but it seems they have printed all issues completely from your review.<br /><br />I really can't add much more since I really need to reread the story. Again, crossovers double printing... one of the worst things until rebirth.PeterBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-50168012834119544522017-03-06T12:05:32.065-06:002017-03-06T12:05:32.065-06:00I'm behind but I note a distinct lack of We Ar...I'm behind but I note a distinct lack of We Are Robin characters in Rebirth, which pretty much tells the story of how pervading (or not) they'll end up being.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-6479339287937714332017-03-06T11:45:43.220-06:002017-03-06T11:45:43.220-06:00I don't think this will spoil anything to say ...I don't think this will spoil anything to say it is a bit of a shame that Rebirth (and the preparation for it) kind of derailed some of the threads from Robin War - We Are Robin had to wrap up their stories, Tom King and Tim Seeley had to get to writing ahead for Batman and 'Tec, etc. Would have been really interesting to live in the world where Rebirth happened a year later and the consequences of Robin War got more time to play outBob Schoonoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15371205595372517089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-6246259549522229792017-03-06T11:15:31.542-06:002017-03-06T11:15:31.542-06:00I've been delayed a little following up with t...I've been delayed a little following up with the second volumes of the involved series, so now I'm trying to guess what three series have major consequences from this -- don't tell me! Grayson's got to be one, and We Are Robin another. I'm hoping the third of Robin, Son of Batman, because as out-of-left-field as the Damian development came in here, it'd be a disservice not to follow up on it.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-87251532027384680832017-03-06T11:12:02.826-06:002017-03-06T11:12:02.826-06:00I couldn't help chuckling every time they ment...I couldn't help chuckling every time they mentioned the "Robin Laws" because there's an actual writer named Robin Laws who had a short stint on Iron Man. I wonder if King and the other writers involved in this crossover remember him.<br /><br />Overall, I quite liked this crossover, not just because of how tightly plotted it was by the core writers (King, Fawkes and Bermejo), but because it had major consequences for at least 3 of the series involved. I just wish there weren't such a mish-mash of artists in the bookend specials.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com