tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post4232832130129272446..comments2024-03-27T21:12:28.287-05:00Comments on Collected Editions: Review: Wonder Woman Vol. 1: The Lies (Rebirth) trade paperback (DC Comics)collectededitionshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-82300018367164687692017-04-25T15:04:24.558-05:002017-04-25T15:04:24.558-05:00I loved this volume, and can't believe it took...I loved this volume, and can't believe it took me so long to try it. I really loved learning about Cheetah (as this was my main introduction to the character in the comics)Codyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17178727978311013660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-3685015726023659152017-03-09T22:08:16.404-06:002017-03-09T22:08:16.404-06:00Love me some Rucka, but I think it's a sure th...Love me some Rucka, but I think it's a sure thing we're going to lose Azzarello's run, even as I feel it's done some good things for the Wonder Woman franchise over the past five years.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-77885647923446744612017-03-07T13:40:51.348-06:002017-03-07T13:40:51.348-06:00I somehow missed this review.
I think it's a ...I somehow missed this review.<br /><br />I think it's a bit early to make some of the conclusions you're making. It was an intriguing read that left me with a lot of questions and not so much answers. I liked that he brought back some of the characters of his previous run. Wonder Woman lacked a bit in the "human" support cast until now.<br /><br />You also mentioned in one of the comments that Barbara Minerva happens to know how to cross ethereal planes to get to Themyscira, but as recently as Wonder Woman #47 she's been there and we don't know how she got there either. At first I thought, that's why she went to Cheetah in the first place when she couldn't reach Themyscira, but by the end I was doubting if things like that even mattered now.<br /><br />I'm really wondering what's going to happen and it was a good read, but I really hope that what came before wont be dismissed. I had so much fun reading Brian Azzarello his run, even Meredith Finch her Greek god intrigues were good (not as good, but still fun to read).PeterBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-47214904029578054492017-02-26T09:55:43.160-06:002017-02-26T09:55:43.160-06:00Probably? It depends on how into Wonder Woman you ...Probably? It depends on how into Wonder Woman you want to get. If you just want to pick up with DC's current run of Wonder Woman, then yes, start here; this is meant to be a Wonder Woman "jumping on point" for DC's Rebirth era. Alternatively, if you're interested in modern Wonder Woman comics (last thirty years or so), there's some great stories by George Perez (the beginning of Wonder Woman's modern era) collected both in a large hardcover and smaller paperbacks, and then from there you can find assorted collections (including Rucka's first run) through to the present. <br /><br />So short answer, yes; longer answer, it depends on what you're looking for.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-66295557909348426502017-02-26T04:09:10.742-06:002017-02-26T04:09:10.742-06:00is it a good starting point to start reading WW fr...is it a good starting point to start reading WW from this trade?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-57807185889961589242017-02-24T09:52:23.890-06:002017-02-24T09:52:23.890-06:00Three trades per month. My god, the self control!Three trades per month. My god, the self control!collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-7025726373197341932017-02-24T09:45:57.490-06:002017-02-24T09:45:57.490-06:00Yeah, that sounds more likely. Tbh I don't thi...Yeah, that sounds more likely. Tbh I don't think we'll ever get the full story but as long as they both continue to put out quality work I'm happy. Although maybe a few less "Outrage" covers would be nice too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-7569815671772303572017-02-24T09:40:41.376-06:002017-02-24T09:40:41.376-06:00I just get three trades per month from the library...I just get three trades per month from the library (I want to have time to read other things!), and thus comic books I want to read are published faster than I can read them. Someday I want to read all Wonder Woman collections in order, but I have no idea when I'll get around to that.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16546370463396570168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-2174691694020988072017-02-24T01:34:13.501-06:002017-02-24T01:34:13.501-06:00I'm loving this run, the present day story esp...I'm loving this run, the present day story especially. While it's slow, it's also being very careful and deliberate. It's a story with some dark fantasy, a mystery with a hard hook, and a real gravitas about it. I also like that it's more show-don't-tell than several other Rebirth books (which do a bit too much exposition dumping at times).HelloTherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05602812462354227620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-73885691999253588822017-02-24T01:30:36.425-06:002017-02-24T01:30:36.425-06:00It'll probably show up in the next catalog or ...It'll probably show up in the next catalog or so.HelloTherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05602812462354227620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-45299906449754726592017-02-24T01:29:59.718-06:002017-02-24T01:29:59.718-06:00That's Frank's side on the events, and he ...That's Frank's side on the events, and he has a reputation for picking fights with other creators. The truth probably lies somewhere closer to the middle, with Cho getting frustrated with Rucka editing his work.HelloTherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05602812462354227620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-87922485689493011222017-02-23T22:43:25.309-06:002017-02-23T22:43:25.309-06:00>> I suspect that you really don't have ...>> I suspect that you really don't have to worry about the two arcs being overly interconnected<br /><br />I don't know. * Minor spoilers * Late in the story, Barbara Minerva just happens to know a place where Diana can cross ethereal planes to get to Themyscira, and it's such an unremarked on moment -- How does she know this, etc.? -- that I wondered if it wasn't a nod to something happening in the even numbered issues, like we see Minerva discover it there in the past and then it comes to play in the future. But I can't know for sure until I read Vol. 2.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-66069289852160538562017-02-23T22:40:21.204-06:002017-02-23T22:40:21.204-06:00A bunch of titles don't have deluxe listings y...A bunch of titles don't have deluxe listings yet. Give it time; I'd be really surprised if they didn't do one for Wonder Woman.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-77462105889109704652017-02-23T19:58:36.959-06:002017-02-23T19:58:36.959-06:00I suspect that you really don't have to worry ...I suspect that you really don't have to worry about the two arcs being overly interconnected, except starring the same character. I loved Rucka's original <i>Wonder Woman</i> run, too. I caught the first few issues of the Rebirth series and read them with much enthusiasm for that reason. The only reason I haven't continued reading is because I'm short of funds for that sort of thing. I've really only made a concerted effort to keep up with King's <i>Batman</i>, which has only gotten better since it began, with a lot of attention-getting material that has kept me engaged.<br /><br />Anyway, I liked what I <i>have</i> read of Rucka's work here, and didn't have much of a problem staying keyed in. I think part of the problem is that DC is deliberately slowing the pace of its storytelling across the line, so that every title has an obvious story thread to sell. While arcs have obviously been a major part of the publishing model in the past, this new push is making what worked so well in Snyder's <i>Batman</i>, and Johns' <i>Green Lantern</i>, and making it a regular rather than sporadic element. It makes for better trades, anyway, so that writers, and I think DC deliberately picked writers <i>capable</i> of writing in this style, can tell full stories for trade rather than the more random material that can sometimes be lumped together just because companies are reprinting in collections more regularly than ever before.Tony Laplumehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07854455859399339169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-10823870457876557082017-02-23T15:41:23.148-06:002017-02-23T15:41:23.148-06:00I struggle to understand why DC hasnt listed this ...I struggle to understand why DC hasnt listed this for a Deluxe Edition release. My only guess is, they're waiting for Volume three to be released, so they may collect Volumes 1 and 3 together in a HC, while doing the same for 2 and 4. If so, that's an even heavier wait.NearNerdyMilesKritichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05250687730918138216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-23558111001584088672017-02-23T12:53:00.108-06:002017-02-23T12:53:00.108-06:00I like Rucka's work but much like Waid I reall...I like Rucka's work but much like Waid I really dislike how dismissive he is of any interpretations of characters that clash with his. The whole controversy with Rucka forcing DC to kick Frank Cho off the variant covers was ridiculous and much like Mark Waid screaming in the cinema because Superman killed Zod in MoS makes him look petty and childish, like a kid that doesn't want to share his toys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-69811683034239440182017-02-23T12:06:11.410-06:002017-02-23T12:06:11.410-06:00We had that problem with Superman for a little whi...We had that problem with Superman for a little while too, I think.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-32518955927998437922017-02-23T12:02:13.714-06:002017-02-23T12:02:13.714-06:00I think I am just tired of Wonder Woman origin sto...I think I am just tired of Wonder Woman origin stories at this point. Azzarello, Morrison, Thompson, De Liz, and now Rucka have all taken the WW origin for a spin over the last few years in various projects. Just leave it alone for a while. Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12219617535851078745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-69388053127269230512017-02-23T11:37:57.019-06:002017-02-23T11:37:57.019-06:00Thanks for the comment. I'll be curious to see...Thanks for the comment. I'll be curious to see how Year One, the second part of this story (Vol. 3), and the fourth volume finale all shape my perception of this book. To some extent I've grown tired of origin stories about origins, really; I'm more excited to see Greg Rucka tell ongoing, present Wonder Woman stories than to read all this business of fixing things and setting the stage for telling those stories.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-80846127175699611222017-02-23T11:35:56.730-06:002017-02-23T11:35:56.730-06:00Why so long a wait?Why so long a wait?collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-24873566710445041162017-02-23T11:02:45.447-06:002017-02-23T11:02:45.447-06:00As a newcomer to Wonder Woman, I will say that the...As a newcomer to Wonder Woman, I will say that these issues were nearly incomprehensible to me, though clearly well-written, while the early Year One issues had me glued. I guess I can see why they decided to split the storylines up and do Year One later, but I think you're right that it'd be hard to jump on with just this trade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-47255016051701907652017-02-23T10:47:25.491-06:002017-02-23T10:47:25.491-06:00This is a great review. I look forward to reading ...This is a great review. I look forward to reading the book, probably in many years!Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16546370463396570168noreply@blogger.com