tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post8946570921078199101..comments2024-03-27T21:12:28.287-05:00Comments on Collected Editions: Cancelled Trade Cavalcade: Justice League: Breakdowns, Green Lantern: Hal Jordan Vol. 2, and Gerard Jonescollectededitionshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-56807407156102607652017-03-02T09:26:13.985-06:002017-03-02T09:26:13.985-06:00The stories may or may not hold up with twenty yea...The stories may or may not hold up with twenty years of age, but to some extent I think it's just a completeness thing. If a book is going to collect the full Mark Waid Flash run, that's not complete if it lacks parts of direct crossover stories from other books.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-64461476752607754762017-03-01T01:26:35.915-06:002017-03-01T01:26:35.915-06:00Was Gorilla Warfare that good? The reviews of it ...Was Gorilla Warfare that good? The reviews of it were not stellar. (I'm referring to the 1992 crossover, of course, not the New 52 storyline.)Lawrence Kingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-34662632909721829092017-02-03T11:09:44.470-06:002017-02-03T11:09:44.470-06:00It may not even come down to royalties. DC may not...It may not even come down to royalties. DC may not want to put Jones's name on their covers, because they don't want to publicly associate themselves with him.HelloTherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05602812462354227620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-68542691596575929322017-02-02T23:58:49.178-06:002017-02-02T23:58:49.178-06:00I really hope this doesn't influence the Mark ...I really hope this doesn't influence the Mark Waid Flash TPs. :-(Spookyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07370993300280714554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-61308578450796547052017-02-02T08:16:26.616-06:002017-02-02T08:16:26.616-06:00Hey, what about a credit for "The Original Wr...Hey, what about a credit for "The Original Writer" a la Alan Moore on Miracleman?Zach Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17905320964723323391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-64958440510077745282017-02-02T03:36:55.912-06:002017-02-02T03:36:55.912-06:00All of this doesn't make DC remove Jones's...All of this doesn't make DC remove Jones's issues from Comixology though.Mareknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-59515488442685749282017-02-02T03:29:17.037-06:002017-02-02T03:29:17.037-06:00Do not even give them ideas about skipping Gorilla...Do not even give them ideas about skipping Gorilla Warfare either in part or entirety. If that happens, I'm cancelling the book and not buying following volumes. And if I had a time machine, I'd un-buy first volume too.Mareknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-34570803389319135362017-02-01T21:41:44.995-06:002017-02-01T21:41:44.995-06:00Does anyone know enough about DC Residual contract...Does anyone know enough about DC Residual contracts to determine if they can deny residual payments to a convict? Would still love to see the ancillary works collected as it seems unfair to deny payments to other creators because of one bad actors. But even if they can deny him payments, it would still feel icky/wrong to publish something that was primarily made by the offender (like GL Vol. 2 or Mosiac)Michael C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02179301800361938280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-68496280525365290062017-02-01T17:27:49.885-06:002017-02-01T17:27:49.885-06:00I'm very saddened about this mostly because of...I'm very saddened about this mostly because of all the comics that are withdrawing. I heard so much great word from JL Breakdowns, and Hal Jordan Vol 2 was on my radar of interest, but this is just very poor timing in my mind. <br /><br />I like to separate the art from the artist, so seeing this much being redacted sends a tear down my cheek, only because it feels like if these comics get published again it wont be for a while. I do think DC did a good thing to halt and wait to see how this turns out, but on the other side I just want to read good comics and catch up on my DC history. Very conflicting.Codyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17178727978311013660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-82429130122596525182017-02-01T11:50:53.510-06:002017-02-01T11:50:53.510-06:00To be frank, I would. Even if they used Justiniano...To be frank, I would. Even if they used Justiniano's pages. If I weren't a "separate the art from the artist" kind of guy, I wouldn't even read some of my favorite authors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-20403517899472165152017-02-01T11:41:34.965-06:002017-02-01T11:41:34.965-06:00Don't agree with this at all. Art is art, rega...Don't agree with this at all. Art is art, regardless of who produced it. Rosemary's Baby was directed by Roman Polanski, who most likely raped a 13 year old girl, and it still gets shown on TCM (he did the screenplay as well). I doubt anyone outside of comics would even know who Jones is, so I don't see what the fuss is about. There are plenty of classic works of art that are still out there even though their creators were not the best people around. Plus, as Anonymous says above, it's not as if Jones did all the writing, art, lettering, coloring, and editing all by himself. Not publishing screws the other creators involved, also.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04449783353273386972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-78050324081605030962017-02-01T11:27:38.680-06:002017-02-01T11:27:38.680-06:00Green Lantern #40 was more of a tie-in than a prop...Green Lantern #40 was more of a tie-in than a proper "Return of Barry Allen" chapter, which is why it wasn't even included in previous collections of that storyline. As a completist, though, I'll appreciate it if DC does not exclude it from the second Flash by Mark Waid volume. The "Gorilla Warfare" crossover would read awkwardly without the Green Lantern chapters, though, and Jones even got a plot assist credit in the Flash chapters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-4878055878982396072017-02-01T11:22:21.957-06:002017-02-01T11:22:21.957-06:00Let's say DC had decided to publish this book....Let's say DC had decided to publish this book. Wonder Woman by Margaret Weis. Would you still buy it?collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-88185856141881269782017-02-01T11:20:18.083-06:002017-02-01T11:20:18.083-06:00Before his arrest, Justiniano worked on a Wonder W...Before his arrest, Justiniano worked on a Wonder Woman graphic novel called Hand of the Gods, written by Margaret Weis and Lizz Baldwin, which has yet to see print. I figured DC would eventually hire another artist to redraw the whole thing, but I guess it would be too costly, not to mention the story was apparently set in pre-Flashpoint continuity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-73587963543299088512017-02-01T10:50:18.721-06:002017-02-01T10:50:18.721-06:00I imagine cover credit does play a part. Another a...I imagine cover credit does play a part. Another aspect is that while it has only been 6 years between the two incidents, the way people react, respond (especially with social media), and what they expect of corporations in these situations has changed greatly. Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12219617535851078745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-42412900774034531562017-02-01T10:42:08.004-06:002017-02-01T10:42:08.004-06:00https://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/22/the-wonder...https://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/22/the-wonder-woman-original-graphic-novel-that-will-not-be-published/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-52702983100438164242017-02-01T10:36:08.191-06:002017-02-01T10:36:08.191-06:00I think they should stick to their publishing sche...I think they should stick to their publishing schedule, like it was mentioned there were a lot of creators involved to make those comics as well who would be happy to see some income in form of royalties from these reprints.Let justice decide about the allegations that burden him and punish him accordingly. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-15239221356757893222017-02-01T10:20:35.917-06:002017-02-01T10:20:35.917-06:00I'm very interested in seeing how this plays o...I'm very interested in seeing how this plays out, because if Eddie Berganza gets sued or arrested over his sexual harassment allegations, the damage and confusion will be multiplied by a hundred. Berganza has had an editorial presence in what seems like every Superman story published since the Death and Rebirth, plus numerous other credits all across DC.doug.glassmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18018711097234509826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-53137816146917803502017-02-01T09:39:02.487-06:002017-02-01T09:39:02.487-06:00A bit of detective work on Justiniano, for referen...A bit of detective work on Justiniano, for reference.<br /><br />Justiniano was arrested in 2011 and sentenced to ten years in 2012. DC has since reprinted 52, on which Justiniano served as penciller for two issues. A 2012 Infinite Crisis omnibus contained his "Day of Vengeance," and a 2013 Teen Titans omnibus contained his four issues of "Beast Boy." He also penciled a few issues of Geoff Johns's Flash, which was recently given the omnibus treatment as well. I don't see any other recent Justiniano work (new or reprinted) since 2011.<br /><br />Conspiracy-minded folks might say that Johns trumps Justiniano (indeed, it's a surprising coincidence), but I wonder if it has more to do with cover credit. Justiniano doesn't get cover credit on any of those omnibii, while Johns (and Morrison and Rucka and Waid) does. Gerard Jones certainly would have gotten cover credit, yes?Zach Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17905320964723323391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-54986184641275701682017-02-01T09:23:29.871-06:002017-02-01T09:23:29.871-06:00Were books cancelled in that instance? Were those ...Were books cancelled in that instance? Were those books ever later released?collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-82471995643664977282017-02-01T09:20:40.992-06:002017-02-01T09:20:40.992-06:00Is very similar to what happened with Justiniano.Is very similar to what happened with Justiniano.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-31898715644563141412017-02-01T09:03:51.294-06:002017-02-01T09:03:51.294-06:00I would be ok with DC still publishing the materia...I would be ok with DC still publishing the material after the case is resolved regardless of the verdict. I have no clue as to what legally the company can do about paying him royalties. If convicted, they could donate the funds to a child abuse prevention fund or some similar charity. If that is not legal, maybe they could just hold the funds until he is released from prison. <br /><br />Saying all that, I completely understand why DC has cancelled these books. Right now, this is a fairly quiet story. DC would make it a loud story if they publish the material and the headline comes out "DC continues to pay child pornographer" <br /><br />I have no idea what DC will do with crossover material. The books that are primarily Jones material, like Green Lantern, are dead from a publication sense. There is no upside to DC to ever publish this material. It is far removed from current continuity, the audience for it is not overwhelmingly large, and the chance for bad publicity is too great. Maybe if Jones gets a resounding not guilty verdict, DC may come back to his work. Even then, I think they would let several years pass. Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12219617535851078745noreply@blogger.com