tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post3318734140005430499..comments2024-03-27T21:12:28.287-05:00Comments on Collected Editions: Review: DC Entertainment Essential Graphic Novels and Chronology 2013 trade paperback (DC Comics)collectededitionshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-18991382330634496552013-05-29T21:37:18.178-05:002013-05-29T21:37:18.178-05:00Like one of the first commenters, this collection ...Like one of the first commenters, this collection was such a waste. It's like it was written by someone who doesn't even get comics or understand what the word "Chronological" means. They don't even tell you which issues each trade collects. It's a jumbled mess and confusing all around. They should've followed Marvel's example... sorry DC, you dropped the ball here.....Ryannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-65491934184822243262013-05-14T16:14:54.204-05:002013-05-14T16:14:54.204-05:00Thanks kindly for the replies! I appreciate it.Thanks kindly for the replies! I appreciate it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18265861312442452935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-13401430890573102112013-05-14T13:32:24.196-05:002013-05-14T13:32:24.196-05:00I think what you're point out underlines that ...I think what you're point out underlines that this is a catalog in its infancy straddling two worlds right now, probably out of necessity. There's not that many New 52 collections now, really, but DC's Essential Graphic Novels and Chronology 2018 is going to be a much different looking beast, I think -- figure we'll be maybe ten or eleven volumes into the longest-running New 52 collections by then? My guess is we'll see even less of the "non-major" (sales and continuity-wise, not in our hearts) old stuff like Waid's JLA and Flash and stories like New Krypton, in favor of the real lasting blockbusters and then a slew of New 52 stuff.<br /><br />Every publisher wants Walking Dead right now -- a catalog where they can say "here they are, volumes one through eighteen, go buy them." My guess is that's the trend for the Essentials book.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-71267658478092637732013-05-14T13:25:48.532-05:002013-05-14T13:25:48.532-05:00I don't necessarily see the issue, either. The...I don't necessarily see the issue, either. They have Ex Machina listed under Vertigo, which is inaccurate, but since Wildstorm is defunct, I'd rather see Ex Machina subsumed under Vertigo (and really, it's not like that's a major point of upset or anything) than have it not in the catalog at all.<br /><br />Or is it because America's Best was kind of Moore's private-label thing under Wildstorm? I guess if DC bought it, they bought it ...collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-31298483077844461632013-05-14T13:12:52.316-05:002013-05-14T13:12:52.316-05:00"Taking credit" for something and "..."Taking credit" for something and "Trying to sell more copies" of it are not the same thing.A. J. Paylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10467481060204872454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-89192833228174319582013-05-14T08:50:17.984-05:002013-05-14T08:50:17.984-05:00About what I expected by the looks of it. For the...About what I expected by the looks of it. For the new reader it looks like most of the big guns are there. <br /><br />Some of the decisions are a little bit iffy though. DC are going some lengths to show their disdain for Mark Waid aren't they? It's criminal that some of his books aren't here, Tower Of Babel in particular considering they turned it into an animated movie not too long ago. The absence of New Krypton also struck me as odd considering it was a Geoff Johns vehicle. Then again, a multiple book crossover isn't likely to appeal to the market this catalogue is aimed at.<br />Overall, for new readers this is pretty good as a starting point. <br /><br />For me, and I guess most of the people who read this blog, it emphasises the great stories that are absent, some probably by oversight and some by deliberate design. Just how many quality books are now unavailable? The aforementioned early to mid 90's Superman and Batman stuff, Waid's Flash, Kyle Rayner's tenure as Green Lantern. Nightwing for crying out loud!<br /><br />I guess its a shame so many great titles don't get used to entice new fans, either because they are out of print or out of favour.Paul Fletcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04452528222610475967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-64885614319325655122013-05-13T20:44:42.142-05:002013-05-13T20:44:42.142-05:00Marvel puts one "Marvel Chronology" free...Marvel puts one "Marvel Chronology" freebie book out each year; last year's was, if I recall correctly, "Son of Marvel Chronology". I think the next one should be out soon. I'm not sure where to find previous volumes, though.doug.glassmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18018711097234509826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-17148716102532190672013-05-13T17:35:13.480-05:002013-05-13T17:35:13.480-05:00Even better, Michael, just check out this site'...Even better, Michael, just check out this site's DC Trade Paperback Timeline. I started reading/collecting DC trades with Morrison's JLA. My list then ballooned from there, and I have something like 300 collections and counting, and I check this site constantly for reviews, recommendations, and reading order.<br /><br />Actually, collectededitions, that gives me an idea. It'd be nice to see on the timeline which collections are out of print. It would help me prioritize the ones I need to work to find vs the ones I can wait and get whenever.Dijonasenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-17367750160574004972013-05-13T17:14:23.829-05:002013-05-13T17:14:23.829-05:00What was the Marvel version called and anybody kno...What was the Marvel version called and anybody know where I can find it?Nikosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-24600179444664776532013-05-13T16:15:00.294-05:002013-05-13T16:15:00.294-05:00I thought I had read that this would be available ...I thought I had read that this would be available through comiXology, but that doesn't seem to be the case yet. You'd think it would behoove DC to release it that way; maybe Wednesday?<br /><br />I notice some people are selling this already on eBay; I don't know that I'd pay for it since they got it for free, but I guess it you really want one ...collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-5939958830590886212013-05-13T16:05:44.331-05:002013-05-13T16:05:44.331-05:00Anyone have any info on where to find this online?...Anyone have any info on where to find this online?<br />After 30 years of Marvel, I'm just now getting into DC and this book seems to be aimed at me. My LCS(which is actually 90 minutes away) doesnt have it and I can't find it online.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18265861312442452935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-4416807120574611062013-05-13T15:54:34.163-05:002013-05-13T15:54:34.163-05:00I was lucky enough to find Contagion and Cataclysm...I was lucky enough to find Contagion and Cataclysm at my local comic store, but damn I don't think I will EVER find Legacy!Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13858465228077926840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-17328378633515973382013-05-13T11:44:25.077-05:002013-05-13T11:44:25.077-05:00Yeah, they're out of print. I was maybe gettin...Yeah, they're out of print. I was maybe getting a little silly there. Though it did make me think, something like Batman: The Crossover Omnibus would be *awesome*, with all the issues from Contagion, Legacy, and Cataclysm in it. Then you could have a Vol. 2 with Officer Down and Murderer/Fugitive. Trade-waiter heaven.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-71948458334918959072013-05-13T11:40:02.529-05:002013-05-13T11:40:02.529-05:00"From Knightfall, the list jumps straight to ..."From Knightfall, the list jumps straight to No Man's Land and then to Hush. So much for Contagion, Legacy, and Cataclysm, right?"<br /><br />Sadly, I believe all three of those books are currently out of print. Cataclysm is the most unforgivable of all, since DC just published volume four of No Man's Land deluxe edition at the end of 2012. So the end of the story just came out, but to read the beginning, you'll have to shell out on eBay.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09993377495561698805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-16113208982988582052013-05-13T10:37:56.266-05:002013-05-13T10:37:56.266-05:00what i meant is that its more suited to the casua...what i meant is that its more suited to the casual trade/graphic novel reader at a book store who passes the gn section and is interested in maybe picking up a comic out of curiosity.joenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-45958864817435575722013-05-13T09:35:49.834-05:002013-05-13T09:35:49.834-05:00They already did a new origin for Hal, if they won...They already did a new origin for Hal, if they won't reprint New Dawn for whatever reason they should at least write a new book about the fall of Hal Jordan that fits DCs current mindset more closely.<br />Haven't they also rewritten Kyle's origin in the New Guardians book?Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16023341219306132881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-8735674966141259502013-05-13T09:26:26.166-05:002013-05-13T09:26:26.166-05:00Just for accuracy's sake, Reign of the Superme...Just for accuracy's sake, Reign of the Supermen (called Return of Superman) is in here, but not, indeed, Emerald Twilight/New Dawn. Zero Hour is in there, though, under the Green Lantern section, so I don't think we can say they're trying to bury Hal's fall entirely -- if anything, it's kind of this strange back and forth where Zero Hour is in there, but not Emerald Twilight and not Final Night or Day of Judgment. <br /><br />I've always thought, after Rebirth, that it was somewhat worth DC moving away from the early Parallax material, which doesn't really match up with what was established about Parallax later, toward focusing on the new Green Lantern mythology. But in terms of this guide, for someone curious about what happened to Hal pre-Rebirth, this isn't the guide you're looking for.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-20025657885807968152013-05-13T09:21:36.160-05:002013-05-13T09:21:36.160-05:00So there's neither Reign of the Supermen nor E...So there's neither Reign of the Supermen nor Emerald Twilight / New Dawn.<br />But there is Rebirth. I still don't get it why DC newer reprinted the Emerald Twilight / New Dawn book as it's very essential even for the Geoff Johns "reboot", and absolutely essential for the Green Lantern franchise in general. Why is DC ignoring this piece of history, is there some kind of company mandate to bury Hal's fall?Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16023341219306132881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-76534090343453853622013-05-13T09:19:00.966-05:002013-05-13T09:19:00.966-05:00I've been to a few comic book stores (includin...I've been to a few comic book stores (including my LCS, Tate's Comics in Lauderhill, FL) where they've laminated various pages of the Marvel Chronology and hung them near the pertinent book sections. I hope they'll do the same for the DC Chronology. <br /><br />Unless the book store's manager is a comic book geek himself, though, I don't think this plan would make a lot of headway at BN, Books A Million and other major sellers.doug.glassmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18018711097234509826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-77537073546215487002013-05-13T09:00:09.449-05:002013-05-13T09:00:09.449-05:00i never been more disappointed in a freebie! i was...i never been more disappointed in a freebie! i was really looking forward to this hoping for maybe a one stop guide to all the dc trades or a more comprehensive list but this was a joke. i understand your point and i know they want to push certain books, but if you have a huge backlist wouldn't you want to sell as much of everything you can? its bad enough a lot of books are oop or not even collected, but this list should probably be available at a barnes and noble next to the graphic novel section, otherwise its pretty useless to regular trade buyers...the marvel backlist they put out about a year ago on the other hand was very well done.joenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-54961482718809773212013-05-13T08:54:04.511-05:002013-05-13T08:54:04.511-05:00DC's taking credit for "LoEG" now? N...DC's taking credit for "LoEG" now? Not only will Moore get pissed, but that's inaccurate. "LoEG" was published by America's Best Comics through Wildstorm. It's a different situation from, say, "Watchmen", where the initial issues were indeed published under the DC logo. <br /><br />At the most, DC distributed the first three volumes of "LoEG" through one of its imprints from a contract that Moore signed before Lee sold Wildstorm to DC.<br /><br />I'm not saying that DC is alone in publishing and rights hijinks, but this is just kind of blatant.doug.glassmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18018711097234509826noreply@blogger.com