tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post4014956123911636171..comments2024-03-27T21:12:28.287-05:00Comments on Collected Editions: Review: Supergirl Vol. 3: Sanctuary trade paperback (DC Comics)collectededitionshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-53295937012916311242014-08-05T15:29:31.011-05:002014-08-05T15:29:31.011-05:00Agreed; it wasn't so much Supergirl siding wit...Agreed; it wasn't so much Supergirl siding with H'el, which could have been handled well, but the romance, which felt to me like "she's a girl so there should be romance" -- as if Supergirl and H'el simply having a platonic partnership wasn't a possibility. <br /><br />Can't wait for both the next volume villain and Red Daughter after that; both of those are what's keeping me on the book.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-39659315119860164232014-08-05T14:35:22.737-05:002014-08-05T14:35:22.737-05:00I think overall I would have been fine with Superg...I think overall I would have been fine with Supergirl siding with H'El if they hadn't forced the romance angle. The writers didn't really earn it. They just said Supergirl was in love with H'El and never bothered to really show us that. If they had stuck with her wanting to bring Krypton back it would have been better. The romance just rubbed me the wrong way. Supergirl really did come off bad in this cross-over. She fought most of the Justice League and beat Superboy into a bloody pulp and didn't care about killing billions (even if she believed that they would never truly die since they would never really blow the planet up once they saved Krypton).<br /><br />Count me in the "I loved it" camp for Nelson's Sanctuary issue. I laughed so hard at that issue. I really hope Bedard picks up the dangling Sanctuary thread.<br /><br />I think Nelson gets an undeserved bad reputation because of the Cyborg issues but I felt he did a great job with what was an editorially mandated story. Sure, they were some dark issues but it felt like he was trying to set Supergirl up to get past her anger and hatred for all things Earth. I also just really loved the sci-fi concepts he used. I'm interested to see you your take on it will be, CE.<br /><br />I have to admit I originally loathed the whole idea of Red Daughter of Krypton but Bedard and Soule knocked it out of the park. It was a great storyline and cross-over. I was actually sad when Supergirl stopped being a Red. <br /><br />Aside from a few hiccups, I think Supergirl has been one of the more consistent titles in the New 52. Or at last most consistent title that has undergone several creative team changes in a relatively short period of time. Nelson and Bedard both built on what Green and Johnson had done while adding their own stuff. The book never feels like it's going in a completely new direction and that everything we as readers had just read was meaningless. That's how I felt about the Superboy book. It had so many different directions and writers and artists that it never really built up the momentum it needed. Only now, with Kuder as a writer and the book about to be cancelled, has it really found its footing and become a great book.<br />-CJAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-5855420341608775012014-08-04T15:44:07.697-05:002014-08-04T15:44:07.697-05:00Nothing insulting, to be sure; I'm a great fan...Nothing insulting, to be sure; I'm a great fan of many of David's works. But any David fan knows he has a tendency to get "punny," sometimes in my opinion to great effect and other times to distraction. Nelson isn't punning per se in this Supergirl issue, but Scott hit it on the nose with the Douglas Adams comparison (an author whom I also like); there was a certain irreverence to the issue, and especially in following from the title <em>not</em> having that irreverence, that struck me as David-sonian (or alternatively, Adams-ian).collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-67802114446519929862014-08-04T15:24:21.688-05:002014-08-04T15:24:21.688-05:00What do you mean by "gone Peter David"?What do you mean by "gone Peter David"?Nikosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-57871015719568297642014-08-04T12:29:04.103-05:002014-08-04T12:29:04.103-05:00OK, Heart of Gold/Marvin the Paranoid Android is a...OK, Heart of Gold/Marvin the Paranoid Android is a pretty good simile. And it did make me laugh, especially as regards following the blue lights (though I kept hearing Picard in my head: "There are four lights!"). <br /><br />I guess it just seemed to me the Supergirl title had just suddenly "gone Peter David," and yes I know there's some irony to that statement, but given that this hadn't been that kind of book so far, to me it grated a little. Also my own silly pet peeve is when a writer comes on a title and "tap dances" away their first issue, like telling the story in the villain's head instead of the hero's or otherwise stepping away from the hero while the writer works to get the character's voice; Nelson's issue where Supergirl fights her own fortress seemed like that kind of tap dancing. So, it pushed a couple different buttons for me, but as you said, to each their own.<br /><br />You're right about the need for text recap pages. I feel like DC is almost there. I didn't mind reading between volumes for the Green Lantern Third Army/First Lantern books or H'el on Earth here, but as you said, if someone's reading straight through, it'd be nice if there was some kind of guidance.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-82568235685653037962014-08-04T12:19:21.850-05:002014-08-04T12:19:21.850-05:00I'm going to have to disagree with you, CE, re...I'm going to have to disagree with you, CE, regarding Michael Alan Nelson's issue; I thought it was not only the best issue of this volume, but also the strongest issue of the entire series to date (and I say this as someone who has really enjoyed the previous two volumes). <br /><br />Nelson came on in the middle of an (admittedly intriguing) story, but really put his own mark on it by giving the final issue a <i>Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy</i>-esque feel--Sanctuary's "voice" is basically the Heart of Gold's computer mixed with Marvin the Paranoid Android. I thought it was not only a bold move on Nelson's part, but also well-executed as well. Admittedly, maybe the humor worked for me and didn't for you (different strokes for different folks as they say), but I thought that it really distinguished this issue from what came before it and got readers excited for a new direction.<br /><br />Man, though, this was a strange collection. The first issue really should have been included in the last volume, and there were no recaps or even references to <i>Superboy</i> and <i>Superman</i> during the "H'el on Earth" issues so a casual reader would have no idea what was going on (as opposed to the first volume of <i>Superboy</i> which at least had a footnote directing readers to the first volume of <i>Teen Titans</i>). I know none of us wants another "Throne of Atlantis"-type misfire with repeated issues, but DC has got to find a better way to collect crossovers or at least acknowledge that a series is in a crossover via footnotes or recap pages or something. Scott Beattiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00528480452314914200noreply@blogger.com