tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post4568863129863944842..comments2024-03-27T21:12:28.287-05:00Comments on Collected Editions: Review: Batman and Robin Vol. 4: Requiem for Damian hardcover/paperback (DC Comics)collectededitionshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-46402287660596057812015-02-16T09:24:39.848-06:002015-02-16T09:24:39.848-06:00The nature of comics, for better or worse. In a sh...The nature of comics, for better or worse. In a shared comics universe, oftentimes events will happen in one title and then the other titles will react to it. Sometimes it's mid-storyline, like the various books that tied into Batman's Death of the Family storyline; sometimes books react after the fact, like Damian's death in Batman, Inc. and then the reactions in Batman & Robin and elsewhere. You can read just one title and get a fairly solid reading experience, but for characters like Superman, Batman, and Green Lantern with "lines" of titles, or characters with their own titles that also appear in Justice League and elsewhere, like Wonder Woman and Aquaman, your most complete reading experience will probably necessarily require following some events into other titles.<br /><br />Another explanation: keep in mind that for all these comics to be released at the same time, they all have to be written at the same time. It's possible Peter Tomasi in Batman & Robin didn't even know *how* Damian was going to die in Grant Morrison's Batman, Inc. because it wasn't fully written yet; he might have only known that it was going to happen. Sometimes I think the details of various events are vague in other titles because the affected writers might not even know the details. A reference to Damian's death was pretty well shoehorned into a Batgirl issue, too, where the details were kept vague.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-24052749584628203192015-02-15T14:24:14.368-06:002015-02-15T14:24:14.368-06:00Do you have any idea as to why Robin's death i...Do you have any idea as to why Robin's death is not explained in the Batman & Robin titles? I mean after vol 3 we have no idea he has died, and then suddenly in vol 4 we are having to deal with his death with no knowledge as to how it happened. And it is only after Googling it that I found out he died in Batman Incorporated issue 8. Kieron Townendhttp://whataboutthetwinkie.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-68171020187489395502014-06-11T07:24:34.355-05:002014-06-11T07:24:34.355-05:00It's a shame if they really did remove that in...It's a shame if they really did remove that interaction. Personally, I thought it was Romantic with a capital 'R' (as in the Romantic artistic movement); the Joker's love towards Batman wasn't sexual, it was love for the idea behind Batman, the Dark Knight against his Joker caught in an eternal and mythic struggle. That's why he refers to the Court of Owls showing Batman needing help and why he doesn't want Batman to tell him his former identity: both instances make them both human, which the Joker doesn't want.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-55545881275671992612014-06-11T06:12:32.772-05:002014-06-11T06:12:32.772-05:00It's about halfway through his "What I Bo...It's about halfway through his "What I Bought: May 2014" post. http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2014/06/01/what-i-bought-may-2014-selections/#more-163805<br /><br />Spoiler: He reeeeeally didn't like it.doug.glassmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18018711097234509826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-81852479699900671222014-06-10T13:46:12.733-05:002014-06-10T13:46:12.733-05:00In my review of Death of the Family, I mention a &...In my review of <a href="http://collectededitions.blogspot.com/2013/10/review-batman-vol-3-death-of-family.html" rel="nofollow">Death of the Family</a>, I mention a "romantic tinge" to the approach of Snyder's Joker to the Batman; I definitely did see that characterization in the book. And of course neither Snyder nor Winick are the first ones to suggest that. I think Snyder plays it pretty subtle, but it's there for the interpreting.<br /><br />Got a link to the Burgas review? I couldn't find it.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-52708953353477850572014-06-10T06:56:24.980-05:002014-06-10T06:56:24.980-05:00I have a Batman-related question about an older bo...I have a Batman-related question about an older book. Greg Burgas' review of "Batman: Death of the Family" talked about some of the "gay panic" in the fan base after the Joker was written to have feelings for Batman. Apparently some of this dialogue was removed for the trade. I personally don't mind the idea of the Joker having some sort of attachment to Batman--Luthor taunting him about not being Batman's prom date in the first volume of "Outsiders" was hysterical--but did you see any of that characterization?doug.glassmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18018711097234509826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-85874108043160178202014-06-09T16:50:23.455-05:002014-06-09T16:50:23.455-05:00Clearly that should read "hadn't heard ab...Clearly that should read "<i>hadn't</i> heard about the silent issue."Tony Laplumehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07854455859399339169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-66509776190941649512014-06-09T16:48:56.630-05:002014-06-09T16:48:56.630-05:00Jerk Batman. Heh. Guess that's why so many p...Jerk Batman. Heh. Guess that's why so many people reacted violently against <i>All-Star Batman and Robin, the Boy Wonder</i>. To a certain extent, that's kind of the whole story of Bruce Wayne, though, a guy who has sometimes verged on the side of homicidal maniac. As far as Tomasi's psychological exploration of the character (and company) and as you point out the whole continuity, this sounds like a much-needed piece of the tapestry he's been working on. It's as good a time as any to becoming Jerk Batman after losing his only son ("A Lonely Place of Dying" saw that, too, which was how we originally got Tim Drake). I haven't read most of these issues, and in fact had even heard about the silent issue. I love this series so much. Despite your soft sell, this sounds like an awesome volume.Tony Laplumehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07854455859399339169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-43867980507105866162014-06-09T13:12:05.570-05:002014-06-09T13:12:05.570-05:00I share your dislike of jerk Batman, Snyder's ...I share your dislike of jerk Batman, Snyder's new52 version has had tinges of that, but this really took the cake. I felt the end of Batman Inc was Morrison's way of putting up his arms in defeat that despite his efforts all his great work on a Batman at peace with himself and others, and how that actually makes him far cooler, couldn't stop the pendulum swinging back the other way.<br /><br />That said, I did like the stages of grief and the team ups in the Tomasi issues (which I read monthly).Glinthttp://thespiritualmaterialist.wordpress.com/category/superheroes/noreply@blogger.com