tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post7947327872813381847..comments2024-03-27T21:12:28.287-05:00Comments on Collected Editions: DC Trade Solicitations for December 2012 - Nothing for December, new round for Januarycollectededitionshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-75754236184558557962012-09-24T15:52:01.444-05:002012-09-24T15:52:01.444-05:00More to come on how DC has collected Night of the ...More to come on how DC has collected Night of the Owls once these volumes come out and I get my grubby paws on the collections -- what's ultimately included and excluded, how the individual and combined volumes read, and so on. AngryLionheart1's suggestion is a good one -- making NOTO the second Batman volume, instead of releasing both NOTO and Batman Vol. 2: City of Owls -- though I agree it might become too expensive. <br /><br />DC could have followed something similar to what AngryLionheart1 described and released a Batman Vol. 2: NOTO Book 1 and Book 2, though maybe splitting Batman's second volume into two books might've been too confusing.<br /><br />Kelly has a good point, too, that we'll have to see where the backups end up, also. I would feel cheated if the backups aren't collected at all.<br /><br />Ohmstar: I believe in Gail Simone, but how strange to call a new Batgirl villain "Knightfall"? Obviously that has connotations -- no one, and especially not the writer, can be ignorant of that -- and so then either the story has to thematically tie to the original Knightfall (and as you say, it doesn't sound like it does) or the story is meant to stand on its own, simply borrowing the "Knightfall" name. Again, I believe in Gail Simone, but I can't yet see how the latter isn't just sensationalizing. <br /><br />And then there's the issue that the original "Knightfall" put Bruce Wayne in a wheelchair, whereas the new Batgirl series is about Barbara regaining her mobility. Hmm ... I'm curious to read this one.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-76794095001643581132012-09-24T12:59:32.238-05:002012-09-24T12:59:32.238-05:00Eyz, I'm not disagreeing with your suggestion,...Eyz, I'm not disagreeing with your suggestion, but I wanted to point out that all the Ambush Bug minis (minus "Year None") was collected in a black and white Showcase volume 2-3 years ago. I remember there was one issue where the black and whiteness of it was very annoying, as there was a big colour-related joke.D. Mark Simmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16537028797086907873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-24712142979455608112012-09-24T05:12:41.620-05:002012-09-24T05:12:41.620-05:00I wish they took this ocassion - less new material...I wish they took this ocassion - less new material collected around December - to collect some if any of the awesome never-TPBed 80s minis and series. Anything, really.<br />Angel & Ape, Ambush Bug, Ragman, Blue Devil, etc.Eyzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05350758607787528425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-39550428559577870172012-09-23T14:51:34.766-05:002012-09-23T14:51:34.766-05:00I'm also guessing that the backup story from B...I'm also guessing that the backup story from Batman #9 won't be included. It's the first of a three part story so that would seem pointless as long as 8-12 will be included in Batman volume 2. Now the backup in #8, totally makes sense. It's pretty much what sets up all the attacks by the Talons in Gotham.Kelly H.https://twitter.com/mayoroftvnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-62367398326265743762012-09-23T08:55:48.857-05:002012-09-23T08:55:48.857-05:00I really like the idea of DC releasing the TPBs si...I really like the idea of DC releasing the TPBs simultaneous with the next volume's hardcovers. For one, it means not waiting a full year after the HC release for the TPB release, and two, like you said, it gives an incentive for buyers to make the jump if they are so inclined. <br /><br />Now, even better would be a simultaneous HC/TPB release of the SAME volume (I mean, hey, Blu-ray and DVD versions of movies are released the same day!), but I understand the business reasons behind it.<br /><br />Regarding these titles, Batwoman Vol 2 seems to conclude the story that started in Vol 1, so I made sure to get them (in digital form). As I mentioned in the review on Vol 1, Batwoman is easily the WORST title to read digitally, because of J.H. Williams' prolific use of beautiful yet "busy" 2-page spreads. That is, it's the only title I've found that requires a lot of zooming on the 9.7" iPad screen. Although maybe the "HD" iPad3 is more readable?D. Mark Simmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16537028797086907873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-83151060371563819782012-09-22T22:37:47.480-05:002012-09-22T22:37:47.480-05:00The Batgirl story arc does not reflect the origina...The Batgirl story arc does not reflect the original Batman: KnightFall story arc at all. It's just the name of Batgirl's newest villain. That is, at least, how it has been in her series thus far. If it will start to reflect Knightfall later, we'll see.Ohmstarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07278326381157570652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-81312053650586145522012-09-21T16:19:38.128-05:002012-09-21T16:19:38.128-05:00For the Night of the Owls, here are two things I&#...For the Night of the Owls, here are two things I'm happy with about it. 1) Is that every issue will be in other character trades (#9 won't be missing from Batgirl VOL.2 for fans) so people don't get made about missing issues. 2) Almost all of the even is here, so not bad.<br /><br />Now here is my questions/problems. <br /><br />1) Why isn't Catwoman #9 in there? Everything listed sounds right, but no Catwoman? C'mon. If you had to get rid of one issue from this trade, it would be ALL-STAR WESTERN #9. I love that series, but it has the least to do with the NOTO. It takes place over 100 prior to the event! But again, only replace it if to fit in Catwoman. I'd much rather they keep All-Star and add Catwoman.<br /><br />2) What's the point in having just about all of the event, and not having the conclusion added to it? Now if it was made of the One-shot issues I'd understand it all, but the book being 90% of the event and not having a conclusion (Batman #10 and 11) just seems dumb. <br /><br />So here's the thing. Batman Annual #1 and Batman #8 & 9 are to be included to NOTO, but will also being Batman Vol.2:City of Owls. Which leaves the conclusion issues 10 and 11, and stand alone tale issue 12. Your forced to pay for the Batman book at full price just for 3 issues and the conclusion, if you decided to get NOTO. Not smart. <br /><br />What DC SHOULD do, is make the entire event complete. So have all of the issues that are already listed in the solicitations, but add Catwoman #9, and Batman #10 and #11. Now this would leave Batman Vol.2 with just issue 12. Well included #12 as the last part of NOTO, just for completionist sake. And make the new price $39.99. Though realistically, it wouldn't surprise me if they'd make it $49.99 (the book would be over 500 pages afterall).<br /><br />So by doing this, you have all of the NOTO event and it's conclusion, as well as Batman isse 12. This gives people the option to not have to buy Batman Vol.2 for the conclusion. C'mon, it's call "Batman: Night of the Owls" after all? And so you leave the current solicitation of Batman Vol.2: City of Owls as is, so you can pick it up without picking up NOTO. For those who don't want the other stuff.<br /><br />Would this work? AngryLionheart1https://www.blogger.com/profile/08551845755863689101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-56810620807642200342012-09-21T13:24:29.831-05:002012-09-21T13:24:29.831-05:00Well round volume 4 at least 24 issues have passed...Well round volume 4 at least 24 issues have passed, so I should have a good impression of the title and give them all a fair shot I think. Before New52 I only focused on Superman, Batman and a bit JLA. I added GL quickly to them and the rest of the Bat- and Superman family. Now, I'm buying all the trades every month. I have do overtime to keep this up :)<br />To be honost, it's quite possible I won't drop any title as long as I enjoy it. Dannynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-38020714225162227882012-09-21T11:32:35.918-05:002012-09-21T11:32:35.918-05:00Exactly right that the "final" solicitat...Exactly right that the "final" solicitation for Batman: City of Owls (if it's final; sometimes even those change) will tell a lot about how necessary it is to buy the Night of the Owls collection. I'm hoping they keep to the original plan where the only issue not collected twice is the Annual, or that the Annual shows up in Batman, not that we lose more issues to Night.collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-56424321591711632742012-09-21T11:27:21.214-05:002012-09-21T11:27:21.214-05:00In DC's spring forecast a few months ago it di...In DC's spring forecast a few months ago it didn't list issues 8 & 9 of Batman or Nightwing for the Night of Owls HC. I was going to try and avoid buying that because I'll be buying half of the other trades involved. I sure hope this doesn't mean they aren't including those 2 issues in the 2nd volume of Batman. I doubt it, but if they do I'll complain for 5 minutes and then give DC my money. Next month if we find out Batman volume 2 does in fact still include 8-12, I'll probably skip Night of Owls. I can deal without having the annual because I bought the issue and for the most part it was it's own story.Kelly H.https://twitter.com/mayoroftvnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-22931041361975092112012-09-21T11:06:56.998-05:002012-09-21T11:06:56.998-05:00What made you choose Volume 4 as your point before...What made you choose Volume 4 as your point before which you won't cut off any titles?collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-49309951460866384452012-09-21T11:02:06.399-05:002012-09-21T11:02:06.399-05:00I'm going for all the volumes 2 in January and...I'm going for all the volumes 2 in January and the Ravagers. But that's because I've bought all the titles so far and won't drop any till volume 4 maybe. How are the Ravagers actually? I've seen a couple reviews, but they weren't all that positive...<br />I'll be getting the Night of the Owls hardcover as well, so I can read it as a whole.<br />What I look forward to most are Animal Man and Batwoman of the January releases.Dannynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-13167059844737159762012-09-21T09:36:20.232-05:002012-09-21T09:36:20.232-05:00You're in luck, Jackie -- from what I understa...You're in luck, Jackie -- from what I understand, the Night of the Owls tie-in issues will be both in the Night of the Owls HC, and then also in their own individual collections (so the Batgirl issue in the Batgirl trade, etc.).collectededitionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698269790653953645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10945794.post-89408109049125658532012-09-21T09:34:44.463-05:002012-09-21T09:34:44.463-05:00I really wish DC didn't collect all the Night ...I really wish DC didn't collect all the Night of the Owls one shot in one collection. I would have prefer if the issue would collect in their release titles.Jackie Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10978552887553267055noreply@blogger.com